Email I received from Kent Hovind:
January 29, 2012
Hey friends! Quick update here. God is good! (Duh!). Strange times we face right now! Psalms 2 tells us the heathen will rage with their plans to throw Christ out of His inheritance and create a one world government (See I Tim 6:10) but God is laughing at it all. Imagine the folly of men thinking they can win against God! It is hilarious when you look at it from the eternal perspective! However, we are not quite there yet and the 'Pinky and the Brain' type folks who wish to "take over the world" are VERY serious and VERY active right now! Buckle your seat belt! It's about to get MUCH worse on planet earth! I feel more and more burdened to warn folks who have been deceived by the false hope of a rapture before the tribulation (which I fell for for 38 years!) when the scripture is clear that the "gathering together"- ie. rapture- is AFTER the tribulation. (See Mt. 24; Mk. 13; Lk 21) We have at LEAST 7 more years here! More on that in my research paper to be posted (some day? :( ) on 2peter3.com. Don't be one of those 'fall away" II Thes. 2. (I took the red pill!). I think America is the "plucked eagle" of Dan. 7. Maybe we can help preserve our area enough (like salt) and help when the man's heart is given to it?
Anyway, God always seems to raise up some of His own who will hold true to Him during bad times. (See the book of Judges and any of the men of God in history). I've been praying He would do it here soon. I was so-o-o-o-o-o blessed by the radio program I heard last night from 2-4am on coasttocoastam.com! I think they archive them for a few days. They had a guest on named Stuart Rhodes who has started an organization called oathkeepers.org. Stuart needs to hear about what happened in my case! Somebody please tell him for me. All my motions are posted on 2peter3.com. The gov now is trying to avoid answering my questions and challenges to their clear violations of the law with more tricky legal maneuvers so please pray Acts 12:5 style that God steps in soon and frustrates their plans for me. Evil men and roaches fear the light (Jn. 3:19) so please help shine the light! I have no might nor power in this battle but I serve a mighty God who does! I have said for years that everyone should obey the law-including the government! That would be wonderful! I love the part of the Lord's prayer where it says, "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven!" (Mt. 6) I'm ready for that!
Since the Florida primary is coming Tues I've been asked who I support for Pres. My answer surprises them. I say "Who is running?" There has been no pres of the real united States (nor even an election!) for a lo-o-o-o-o-o-ng time. The dog and pony show we see on TV every 4 years (and what happens Tues in Florida) is to elect a president of the board of directors for a huge private corporation named UNITED STATES but THAT is a lo-o-o-o-ong story! Anyway, I would love to see someone who at least partly understands and attempts to obey the original constitution as ratified in 1791. The only one CLOSE to fitting that category is Ron Paul. I'd ignore the media and the 'republican leadership' and go for him IF I was voting for that corp pres. He understands that the const. is supreme NOT congress, NOT the court, and NOT the pres! (even though all of them took an oath to defend and support it!-maybe they prayed the Kol Nidri prayer? I covered that in a post last year on kenthovindblog.com?). ALL of them are supposed to obey the constitution but none do that I am aware of. Read my doc #365 on 2peter3.com to see the numerous constitutional violations in my case!
Anyway, as the world descends into chaos (planned by the bad guys for centuries and greatly escalating this year I think) stay close to the Lord! This is a great time to win souls and win crowns! (See Rev. 2-3)
As for fixing the problems soon to face us--II Chron. 7:14 provides the ONLY answer I know of! God is waiting for HIS PEOPLE to get right. The problem with America is not the heathen, it is the Christians!
Edmond Burke was right. "All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Hmmmm?
KH
Amen and Amen again....you said all the things that should have been said a long time ago, we as Christians need to wake up and stand up for what is right....
ReplyDeleteI don't know your situation, I live in FL and am sick and tired of the dog and pony shows going on in our govt....tired of the lies....I pray that we will all be ready when Jesus comes....but first there will be tribulations like we have never seen and I have already dreamed what is coming.....I pray for you brother and if there is anything I can do for you let me know.......
This is awesome!
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice if the Federal Courts would at least acknowledge his questions on their bogus tax laws!
If he got out early, that would be awesome. If not, we'll all still be here.
When he does get out, he needs to whoop Eric's butt for being deceived and messing up the ministry!
-Shawn B a.k.a. 4G
I have been a pre-Tribber for 20 years (since being saved), but lisetning to Pastor Anderson's sermon "Facing the Tribulation" is opening my eyes. I am beginning to see the difference between Tribulation and God's Wrath, and as I do, I am beginning to see what is going on around me with clearer vision. The news media, the government, the schools, and society in general hate Jesus Christ and Bible-believing Christians, and that is going to intensify in the years to come. We are going to be persecuted like never before. What Ken and Pastor Anderson have been through recently are just the opening rounds.
ReplyDeleteI will pray for you Ken. Keep on fighting the good fight.
52"Persecution" of Christians has been going on for 2,000 years. The fact it's about to hit American Christians doesn't mean the Great Tribulation is about to take place. It just means America is about to suffer what ALL Christians have suffered through the centuries.
ReplyDeleteI agree that persecution is on the rise and will continue to be and some Pre-trib believers are equally confused, thinking that persecution will not start until after the Rapture. That is nonsense, but so is the idea that this indicates that we as believers are going to go through the Great Tribulation.
If seals, vials and trumpet judgments start to take place... .that is when the Great Tribulation starts and that will not happen until a global dictator "confirms the covenant" (Daniel 9:27) with Israel and the world, allowing for a Temple to be rebuilt in Jerusalem and blasphemous blood sacrifice to begin, again. Then, 3 1/2 years later the Beast (Antichrist) will stand in the Temple and declare Himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4).
But I believe the claim that the Great Tribulation has some connection to "persecution" of Christians is in great error. Persecution will take place but it will be toward two main groups of people:
1. those who reject the mark (Revelation 20:4) and,
2. the Jews (Revelation 12:13).
There is no mention of persecution of the Church or of Christians in any Great Tribulation passage. There is no single mention of the Church after Revelation chapter 3 and no mention of the Gospel of grace, no mention of churches, no mention of being born again, no mention of anything that would identify "the church" in any Great Tribulation passage.
During the Great Tribulation (time of Jacob's Trouble) the Antichrist persecutes all who reject the mark (including unbelieving "patriot" groups like David Ickes, Alex Jones, white supremacist militias, agnostic/athiest/newage survivalists, etc, and Jews.)
I am concerned at the number of those who used to be pre trib but now are turning their backs on the "blessed Hope" Comfort one another with those words seems to be contrary to being told "enjoy the next 7 years of Trib period!"
It also seems to me that those who are no longer pre trib refuses to acknowledge that there are SEVEN Raptures in the Bible (Enoch, Elijah, Jesus, John in Revelation 4:1, Pre-Trib/Church, Post-Trib "Saints" and the Two Witnesses) and makes all Rapture passages fit into Matthew 24's Post-Trib "Saints" rapture.
And finally, what's worse is that many who are no longer pre trib are increasingly aligning themmselves with anti-semites like Steve Anderson. Most Post-Tribber's turn against Israel.
"Persecution" of Christians has been going on for 2,000 years. The fact it's about to hit American Christians doesn't mean the Great Tribulation is about to take place. It just means America is about to suffer what ALL Christians have suffered through the centuries.
ReplyDeleteI agree that persecution is on the rise and will continue to be and some Pre-trib believers are equally confused, thinking that persecution will not start until after the Rapture. That is nonsense, but so is the idea that this indicates that we as believers are going to go through the Great Tribulation.
If seals, vials and trumpet judgments start to take place... .that is when the Great Tribulation starts and that will not happen until a global dictator "confirms the covenant" (Daniel 9:27) with Israel and the world, allowing for a Temple to be rebuilt in Jerusalem and blasphemous blood sacrifice to begin, again. Then, 3 1/2 years later the Beast (Antichrist) will stand in the Temple and declare Himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4).
But I believe the claim that the Great Tribulation has some connection to "persecution" of Christians is in great error. Persecution will take place but it will be toward two main groups of people:
1. those who reject the mark (Revelation 20:4) and,
2. the Jews (Revelation 12:13).
There is no mention of persecution of the Church or of Christians in any Great Tribulation passage. There is no single mention of the Church after Revelation chapter 3 and no mention of the Gospel of grace, no mention of churches, no mention of being born again, no mention of anything that would identify "the church" in any Great Tribulation passage.
During the Great Tribulation (time of Jacob's Trouble) the Antichrist persecutes all who reject the mark (including unbelieving "patriot" groups like David Ickes, Alex Jones, white supremacist militias, agnostic/athiest/newage survivalists, etc, and Jews.)
I am concerned at the number of those who used to be pre trib but now are turning their backs on the "blessed Hope" Comfort one another with those words seems to be contrary to being told "enjoy the next 7 years of Trib period!"
It also seems to me that those who are no longer pre trib refuses to acknowledge that there are SEVEN Raptures in the Bible (Enoch, Elijah, Jesus, John in Revelation 4:1, Pre-Trib/Church, Post-Trib "Saints" and the Two Witnesses) and makes all Rapture passages fit into Matthew 24's Post-Trib "Saints" rapture.
And finally, what's worse is that many who are no longer pre trib are increasingly aligning themmselves with anti-semites like Steve Anderson. Most Post-Tribber's turn against Israel.
Cathy, you need to read revelation again and again; here's the highlights;
ReplyDeleteRev 7:1-8 is describing the 144,000 virgin male jews- Backed up as virgins in Rev 14;4), but the rest of Rev:7 describes all the saved having come through Great Tribulation. Then Rev 9:4 tells us the scorpion demons won;t touch those sealed by God-don;t think the 144,000 are the only ones sealed- see that thet holy Spirit seals all believers upon our confession of belief;2Cor 1:22, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30, 2Tim 2:19 and finally Rev 9:4. Then there are several times the "saints" are mentioned, that's us if you don't know it. Daniel mentions us several times; Daniel 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. Revelation too.Look up saints in any free onoine bible and get the context and it is all believers- jew or gentile. Then look at Revelation; Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
(read the rest of rev 14- this is the description of Christ first taking the believers up for His harvest, and immediately after, the other angel harvesting the lost in the wrath- and the wrath is in detail in Rev 16. It all happens in One Day. Look up the "last day" and The "day of the Lord", they are the same. Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Who got the victory over the mark and the beast ? etc? The saints. So if you are not of the saints, then where is your scripture?