First, I will post his lying accusations, and then I will post my response with the evidence.
I
have been an avid online listener of yours for about 5 years now. Some
Sam GIMP follower was saying you had not been ordained by RBC, so I
went to the horses mouth, and this is the letter I got in return. I was
wondering if you would respond to it. I know there either has to be a
perfectly good explanation, or someone is blatantly lying! Because your
account of events are vastly different from his.
I know FWBC
is independent, but I believe a church must have the pedigree or come
from another independent baptist church. I also believe a pastor or
missionary must be sent through the authority of a local independent
church.
Thank you
Your Brother in Christ,
Jeremy
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Pastor Stephen R. Nichols" <regency@cleaninter.net> Date:July 8, 2015 at 01:14:51 CDT To: XXXXXXX@yahoo.com Subject:In Answer to Your ?
Dear Brother Jeremy,
No
sir Steven Anderson is not ordained nor was he sent from any church,
certainly not from Regency Baptist Church. He is a self appointed
Pastor. He quit Bible College and started his church.
One
day years ago as I was coming out of a store I met a young man who was
rather wild looking with 2 different colors of hair. He was in the 11th
grade and I gave him a tract & invited him to church. A few months
later he came to church with his parents and his younger sister. I was
told that day that his parents had been led to Christ years before in
Southern California by Dr Roland Rasmussen. The family had drifted from
the Lord, then in time not too long after I met them his parents
divorced. In spite of this Steven grew in the Lord became a faithful
soul winner and when he finished public high school went to Germany on a
Missions trip. There he met a young gal and they communicated by email.
He flew her to the US, picked her up at airport and had her recite the
sinner's prayer so they could go to Reno and get married. He came to
church and said this is my wife who couldn't hardly speak English very
good at the time.
Not to
long after that he informed me he was going to Bible College and off he
went. 2 months before graduation he got into an argument with college
staff and president over the King James Bible. Truth is, he was right in
his belief but very wrong in how he handled it, i told him to just
settle down, finish his course get his degree and move on. He told me he
was quitting school and going to Phoenix to start a church, I told him
he was young and needed to work under a Pastor to get some experience.
He said nope. He was going. Well our people knew him so at the
invitation of the next service I told the folks what his plans were and
we prayed for him. We did not ordain him or send him out to be a Pastor.
He decided God wanted him to Pastor and off he went.
Back
in those days, none of us knew about his strange beliefs about future
events or the Jews & Israel etc. This man is just using the Internet
to push his agenda. We are not associated with him in any way, and
disagree with him in doctrine in numerous things he believes and
preaches.
I am however
curious. How did you find the connection with me. From what I know our
name is no longer on his web page. He has claimed for years that we are
his mother/sending church which is patently false. A few years ago when
he preached his sermon how he prayed for Obama to die, TV stations came
to our church to interview me, at that point he finally responded to my
requests and took my name and Churches name off of his web site.
However, for some reason 2 or 3 people a week write or call about him.
So I'm just curious how you found my name in connection with his.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
Now, here is my response:
Hi Jeremy,
I hate to say this, but this email from Pastor Nichols is filled with
outright lies, and I have plenty of witnesses to prove it. It should
also be noted that Pastor Nichols has had severe health problems and has
over the years taken hardcore drugs to combat them, and at one point a
few years back, he suffered total amnesia to the point where he did not
even know who his wife was, or that he was even a pastor, for about a
week. At one point he even apologized to me for some of the mean things
he had said to me and blamed it on the medications he had been taking.
So in his defense, part of these lies could be explained by memory loss.
1.
He is not the one who invited me to church, although he later tried to
take credit for it. I was invited by a man I never saw again, and I
don't know what his name was.
2. He claims my wife "could
hardly speak English at the time." Anyone can testify that my wife's
English was PERFECT when I met her. In fact, the first year we were
married, my wife volunteered at the Christian school at Regency, helping
kids with ENGLISH paces, among other things.
3. I didn't
"have my wife recite the sinner's prayer." She actually got saved and
was baptized by Pastor Nichols himself on a Sunday morning.
4.
I asked Pastor Nichols if I should go to Hyles-Anderson, and he told me
he thought it was a great idea. He told me that he had some concerns
about Jack Schaap, but that he still thought that I should go.
5.
When I told Pastor Nichols about the heresy being preached at
Hyles-Anderson, I asked Pastor Nichols if I should leave. He said yes. I
discussed with him the option of going to a different college to
finish, coming home to be trained by him, or just starting the church in
Phoenix that I had always planned to start. He said I should not come
back to Sacramento because I shouldn't move my family around that many
times. We talked about the other 2 options, and in the end, we BOTH
agreed that I might as well just go to Phoenix and start the church.
Once we came to that conclusion, these were his exact words: "Just get
to Phoenix as fast as you can." He then admonished me to make sure that I
made my family a priority, and that I don't get too busy in the
ministry and neglect them.
6. Regarding "ordination,"
Pastor Nichols has a different definition than I do. He comes from a
background where multiple pastors from various churches get together and
"ordain" someone which is unscriptural. At our meeting on Saturday,
November 12, 2005, Pastor Nichols put his hand on my shoulder and prayed
for God to bless me as I went to start the church, that HE had just
counselled me to start. Then he said that they would have me come out in
the summer (7 months later) for a formal ordination service so that my
entire family could be there. He came from a background where you start
the church first, and then have a formal ordination service later (also
unscriptural).
The next day, Sunday, he brought me on the
platform of the church and said that they were sending me to Phoenix to
start a church, and that although money was tight, Regency would find a
way to help support me financially (something I never asked for). Over
100 people were there, including many of my relatives and Roger Jimenez
and his wife.
In the next few months, I wrote Pastor
Nichols 4 letters updating him on the progress of starting the church.
He never wrote back to me, but he praised me from the pulpit at Regency
for the great job I was doing (my sister Raani and her husband Bobby
were also present for that, as well as my parents), and he printed the
letters I sent in the church bulletin (see attached). He praised the
fact that I had started a church with literally no financial support and
was succeeding.
On May 21, 2006, I preached a sermon
called "The Book of Revelation," where I disproved the pre-trib rapture.
Pastor Nichols found out about it through his brother-in-law who had
heard it. As summer got closer, I asked Pastor Nichols about the formal
ordination service, and he said that they were very busy at the time,
but that he would talk to the secretary Stephanie about the schedule,
and that we would do it in a few months. Then at the end of the summer, I
heard about another young man being ordained at Regency to run a
Christian school (!) at a church a few hours away. That seemed pretty
weird that there was time to have that, but not my ordination ceremony.
I
called Pastor Nichols repeatedly, and he would never answer the phone.
Finally, I called with my number withheld, and he picked right up
immediately. I tried to talk to him, but he said he was busy. I said,
"No, you need to talk to me right now. If you have a problem with me
just say it, but don't just keep avoiding me and refusing to return my
calls." He then told me that he had heard that I was preaching a
pre-wrath rapture, and that because of unity, he would have to separate
from me completely because of this doctrinal difference. My dad, who was
a member of the church at that time, confronted him about it and can
verify these things.
So, there you have it. I was
prayed for and sent out to start a church in Phoenix by a local,
independent Baptist church that initially was very proud of me, but then
turned on me when they found out I wasn't pre-trib. Basically, I was
sent like Uriah into the hottest part of the battle, and then the troops
were withdrawn from me. Just because there never ended up being a
formal ordination ceremony, I was still ordained in the Biblical sense
(prayed for and sent out with the church's blessing to go start a new
church in another area). At that point, I was the pastor of an
INDEPENDENT Baptist church and no longer under Pastor Nichols'
authority.
Pastor Nichols' motive to lie is obvious.
He is embarrassed in the lame circles of fundamentalism that he
fellowships for having "created a monster." However, that is no excuse
for bearing false witness. I have physical evidence and numerous
eye-witnesses. He has a lying story that can easily be proven to be
false. You be the judge.
God bless,
Pastor Anderson
P.S. Define irony: he accuses my wife of not knowing English and says that she "couldn't hardly speak English very
good at the time." Great English, Pastor Nichols!
UPDATE: Now Pastor Nichols is backing down from some of his outright lies and admitting that a formal summer ordination was planned. This is from a text message he just sent me:
"Your use of the bulletin and letters is pretty funny. Actually they
support me beautifully in my response. Yes I was once very proud of you
no doubt, I was never against you starting your church, never told u not
to and intended to ordain and financially support you and be your
sending church. Sadly it never got to happen, I told folks you were
going and I even gave my blessing but perhaps you don't understand that I
believe in formally before the church ordaining and sending..."
So apparently telling me, "Go start the church in Phoenix," is not "sending" me because there was no formal ordination ceremony later that summer. Apparently calling me in front of the church and saying, "We are sending Steven Anderson to Phoenix, AZ, to start a church and will try to support him financially," is not sending me since the money never materialized. Wow. I was a member of his church and went to Phoenix and started the church with his blessing and as a result of his counsel, but because I later preached against the pre-trib rapture, that makes my sending null and void in his mind.
Well, being prayed for and sent out by the church is all I biblically needed to start a church. I didn't need some unscriptural retro-active formality to sanctify what had already happened 6 months earlier!
