Showing posts with label sam gipp. Show all posts
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Thursday, June 7, 2018

2nd Annual Anti-Anderson Conference



Recently there was a Ruckmanite conference at Victory Baptist Church in Hartford, MI, which I watched online. Since this took place almost exactly one year after the conference Keith Gomez and Sam Gipp held to attack yours truly, I can’t help but assume this was the second annual “Anti-Anderson conference.” I’m calling it that because Ruckmanite ring-leader, Sam Gipp, is clearly obsessed with me. Listen to how many times he mentions me and even addresses me directly throughout the conference:


Although I jokingly refer to their little pro-Israel conference as an anti-Anderson conference, I realize that the entire conference wasn’t about me. Haha. There were several other surprising themes including glorification of violence toward Muslims and also something for all the sci-fi buffs out there.

Although I had the most pulpit mentions, I’m not the only pastor these guys have a beef with. Pastor Bill Grady, one of the keynote speakers at the conference told a story about Pastor McMurtry asking him some questions on the phone about the Jews. Grady likes to say that Pastor McMurtry wasted his time, when Grady was actually the one that called Pastor McMurtry trying to sell him his new book! You can hear that clip here and a lot of other places since Grady has told this same story at many different churches:


The above sermon clip was brought to you by Jimmy John’s. Just kidding, but that story is getting old, Grady. Am I the only one craving a turkey sandwich after all that repetition?

Grady also seems to think we will all be coming back for the Millennium in wedding dresses. Speak for yourself buddy-- I’ll be in a white robe like the Bible says. Listen to this clip for that little gem along with more of Grady’s low points, including him saying that God will break his own word:



One of the craziest statements from the conference came from Pastor Rick Sowell when he said, “I think God’s plan is to populate this entire universe.” Who sits in a church service and listens to this stuff? Perhaps this expansion of the universe thing somehow ties in with evolution and the Gap Theory, which Ruckmanites refer to as the “Gap fact.” Listen to this clip where Sowell twists the scriptures to somehow to try to prove that 298 million planets will eventually be populated! Haven’t we heard something like this before from a man named Joseph Smith? This other planets thing definitely resembles Mormonism. Notice how the Devil repackages a lot of the same lies for different false teachers.



As if all that weren’t bizarre enough, Sam Gipp made an extremely inappropriate joke about handing out tracts at Hooters, a restaurant known as a place to ogle scantily clad waitresses. How would you like to be a woman in that audience hearing this disrespectful and crass reference?

“Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour.” Proverbs 14:9


The irony is that in the same sermon, Grady condemns Faithful Word Baptist Church for allowing women to breastfeed in the services.

It’s hard to pick out the absolute worst moment of the conference, but for me personally, the most disgusting part was listening to an Israeli soldier talking about kidnapping and blowing people up and finding a piece of someone’s brain, which he describes as “fun” and “good times.” The pastors acted like giddy schoolgirls as they hung on the Israeli soldier’s every word. And yes, a love offering was taken for their hero.



It almost seemed surreal watching a band of Baptist children perform Hava Nagila in a Christian church.

I’m hoping that mainstream fundamental Baptists listen to what was said at that conference since Brother Hyles and many of the churches in the Hyles camp were attacked for not embracing Peter Ruckman’s hyper-dispensational doctrine. These Rucktards have a lot of nerve attacking most of fundamentalism for not drinking the Koolaid of Ruckmanism.

Newsflash: Peter Ruckman may have been KJV only, but the guy was a quack! Ruckman went into great detail about aliens from other planets, claimed abortion isn’t murder, and has referred to black people as “monkey men” in his insane writings. More famously, Ruckman taught that there are seven dispensations and that people were saved by works in the Old Testament. The independent fundamental Baptist movement as a whole has rejected Ruckmanism, but lately, it seems to be gaining in popularity in certain circles.

Braindead Ruckmanites are calling the new IFB movement a “Christian cult,” but they are the ones recommending that we get our doctrine from a man! If you are a real Baptist, the Bible is your authority, not some man.

Here is the documentary that provoked the Anti-Anderson Conference Series

Wednesday, May 31, 2017

Sam Gipp's Zombie Apocalypse


16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

- 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

This is a pretty straightforward passage about the dead in Christ rising first that I assumed all Baptists agreed on, but I came across these sermons where Sam Gipp is teaching that there is a 40 day gap between verse 16 and 17. Yes, that’s right—he is teaching yet another “gap theory.”



Gipp’s zombie apocalypse theory in no way jibes with the secret, pre-tribulation rapture, which is what most mainstream Baptist churches teach. Obviously, people are going to notice if every believer who ever lived rose from the dead and walked the earth for 40 days! Wouldn't that serve as a warning that the end is near and even make it possible to predict the day?

Actually, Gipp, the warning is when we see the Abomination of Desolation sitting in the temple, but that’s a whole other argument that is not within the scope of this article. What I’d like to know is how in the world the “twinkling of an eye” takes 40 days!?

“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” - 1 Corinthians 15:52

When Keith Gomez picked Sam Gipp to defend the pre-trib rapture, he picked the wrong guy. Whether you are pre-trib or post-trib, Gipp should lose credibility with everyone with his rapture gap theory. The resurrection/rapture happens in a moment, Sam Gipp, not over the course of 40 days!

What blows my mind is that Sam Gipp can teach this kind of bizarre teaching about the rapture, and no one even bats an eye, whereas if someone says that the rapture is after the tribulation but before God pours out his wrath, everyone loses their minds. As long as you don't go after the pre-trib rapture, you can pretty much get away with teaching ANYTHING about Bible prophecy in today's independent Baptist churches, and no one will even care.

Here is the link to watch "After the Tribulation" and learn the truth.

Monday, May 22, 2017

Sam Gipp's Blasphemy was a Re-Run


"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:9-11

If you were hoping Sam Gipp misspoke when he recently attacked the name of Jesus, you will be disappointed because he has done it more than once. Finding other examples of Gipp preaching the same heresy was easy since he has such a limited repertoire. Like most traveling “evangelists,” Gipp is extremely repetitive, preaching the same recycled junk again and again. Even though Keith Gomez deleted Gipp’s conference sermons, a YouTube search of “Sam Gipp Israel” revealed more of the same heresy on Gipp’s own channel. Here is a transcript of Sam Gipp preaching the same thing back in January 2016:

“In Matthew chapter one, Joseph is he, he ya know, he finds out that Mary’s expecting. He’s gonna put her off quietly cause he doesn’t want her killed, and, and, Gabriel shows up and says, Hey, hey, let her alone. Ya see, you know who she’s carrying? Emmanuel. Really? Yeah. And, and, so when the child’s born they walk up to Joseph and say, So, what are you gonna call him? Jesus.

Did? I, come on, I was there when Joseph said Emmanuel. Right? I’m reading there. Gabriel said he shall be Emmanuel, and when Joseph gets to give him a name, he calls him Jesus. Did he not read two verses ahead? You say, why did he call him Emmanuel? Cause he was never with him. It says in John, ‘He came unto his own, and his own…’ that’s right. Do you understand that when it says that God is with you that you just read Emmanuel?

But, hang on. You see I don’t think this will ever happen. I don’t think in eternity anybody’s gonna say let’s go to Jerusalem and see Jesus. You see he’s never been officially called who? Emmanuel. I think they’ll say let’s go to Jerusalem and see God is with us--Emmanuel.

Take a look at this uh (unintelligible.) Wait a second, take a look at Revelation chapter 21. Member I told you God says he repeats it and says it and says it and says it because if you’re thick you might finally get it? You know what I’m gonna tell you? I told you that I can’t take a hint. Okay, I’m thickheaded, and I got it. How stupid do you have to be to not get it? You’d have to be like 12 years old. Probably hit in the head too many times—or not enough.”

It’s painful listening to this guy, but you can hear these statements for yourself, starting at 1:02:44 in his sermon entitled, “Is God Done with Israel:”



Compare that with his sermon from this month when he blasphemed Jesus:



Obviously, Gipp has not been misinterpreted since the older quotes are even clearer than the statements made during the recent conference. Since so many independent Baptists seem to like Gipp, it was a blessing to hear several different preachers publicly calling him out for his heresy:

Pastor Roger Jimenez Rebuking Gipp
Pastor Joe Major Rebuking Gipp
Pastor David Berzins Rebuking Gipp
Pastor Tommy McMurtry Rebuking Gipp
Pastor Manly Perry Rebuking Gipp 
Pastor Donnie Romero Rebuking Gipp
Pastor Michael Johnson Rebuking Gipp
Pastor Michael Grant Rebuking Gipp
Yours Truly Rebuking Gipp

Sam Gipp is extremely hostile when politely asked about his beliefs. Maybe if you called him up and spoke to him he would respond differently, but I doubt it judging by his reaction to Brother Jeff Utzler’s simple question:


“Now therefore know and consider what thou wilt do; for evil is determined against our master, and against all his household: for he is such a son of Belial, that a man cannot speak to him.” 1 Samuel 25:17

The name Jesus was given by the angel to Mary before Jesus was even conceived in the womb, yet Sam Gipp has repeatedly lied about this fact in his sermons. He says Joseph was told to name the baby “Emmanuel,” but that he named him “Jesus” instead “because God wasn’t with him.” Attacking the name of Jesus is blasphemous, and Gipp’s bizarre claims go against clear scripture.

"And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins." - Matthew 1:21

"And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb." - Luke 2:21

Here is a sermon to go with this article.

Friday, May 12, 2017

Anti-Anderson Conference: This Time It's Personal!



So after the Keith Gomez gave the prelude that I covered in the previous post, Sam Gipp got up to preach the final sermon of the Anti-Anderson Conference. The sermon mainly consisted of wild speculations, accusations, and lies about me personally.

One thing that he made a big deal about was stating that I received more than a million dollars from the government in a settlement regarding the border patrol incident that I was involved in back in April 2009. He then went on to say that I am no longer against border patrol checkpoints now that I have been paid. The truth is that when I sued the government in that case, it was thrown out by a federal judge, and I received nothing! In fact, that incident cost me over $10,000 of my own money for lawyer fees, new windows for my car, and hospital bills. There are videos of me in court on YouTube winning the criminal trial (i.e. I was declared not guilty on all counts), but when I sued them for damages, I was ruled against by a federal judge, and it never even went to court.

But, no, according to Sam Gipp, I am a millionaire! That is why I live in a 1540 square foot house built in 1956 in a questionable neighborhood, share a vehicle with my wife, and buy all my clothes at Goodwill.



The sermon was pretty much like that the whole time - wild accusations with no proof given. Most of what he said would be clearly proven false just by sitting down and watching After the Tribulation. He claims that I told him that I didn't know Pastor Roland Rasmussen and have nothing to do with him. What in the world? Then why did we use him as the narrator in our After the Tribulation film? The truth is that Pastor Rasmussen won my parents to the Lord when they were children in Canoga Park, CA, in the early 1960s. However, in those days Pastor Rasmussen was pre-trib. He came out with his book debunking the pre-trib rapture in 1996 (when I was 15 years old), but I didn't hear about the book until years later when I met Roland Rasmussen for the first time in the year 2000, and I didn't read it until late 2006 when one of Pastor Rasmussen's church members began attending our church every Wednesday night because he was commuting to Phoenix each week. I still talk to Pastor Rasmussen on the phone every few months because he is extremely intelligent, and I enjoy discussing Bible prophecy with him. Even though we don't see eye to eye on many things, I have great respect for his scholarship and Bible knowledge and always learn something.

One thing that cracked me up was his story about calling Pastor Roger Jimenez. He claimed that Pastor Jimenez had to call me and report to me because I am his cult leader. The true story is that he called Brother Jimenez and said, "I am trying to get a hold of Pastor Anderson. Can you have him give me a call?" In fact, he let's this slip out in the clip below because after telling the lie about Jimenez having to report to me, he then says that he told Jimenez that he wanted to speak to me! Gipp also had the gall to say that I like his material on the King James Version. In his dreams! His material on the KJV is garbage, and I have never liked it. I rebuked his foolish teaching on the word "Easter" about 10 years ago and have always avoided him and all other Ruckmanite false teachers. I believe that the KJV is the word of God without error, but I think that people like Gipp do damage to the cause of KJV-onlyism because their arguments are so weak, people like James White (also a heretic) can easily dismantle them. Here is the video where Brother Jimenez rebukes Sam Gipp's lies:



A few more highlights from the evening: here is where Sam Gipp brags about the viewcount on his videos going into the stratosphere (83 viewers) after he attacked me:



Here is where Sam Gipp delivers his bombshell about the word "tribulation" being used 22 times in the New Testament, but only in 21 verses. Oh, no! He got me!



Here is where Sam Gipp lies about my chart showing the timeline of the book of Revelation:


Oh, and no meeting would be complete without the invitation:

Thursday, May 11, 2017

Anti-Anderson Conference: the Saga Continues

Keith Gomez is going to kick my donkey!

So as a grand finale for the Anti-Anderson Conference, on Wednesday night (the final night), Keith Gomez started out by introducing and playing the entire video that I made rebuking Sam Gipp's blasphemy. First he read a list of Bible verses against anger, then he played the video, and instead of giving any scripture or reasons I was wrong, he simply said, "There's something wrong with that man's spirit."



The most ironic thing about this is that Keith Gomez was clearly very angry himself and then admitted that he had a bad spirit after repeatedly challenging me to come to Illinois for a physical fight. No scripture was given on why Sam Gipp's blasphemy of Jesus was right or justified, but rather Pastor Gomez just reverted to Junior High mode and did a bunch of chest pounding about how I need to fly to Chicago and say these things to his face. That is extremely hypocritical given that he hosted an entire conference attacking me and didn't fly to Arizona to come "say it to my face." I would never challenge him to come fly to Arizona and "say it to my face" because we don't wrestle with flesh and blood. Violence is not the way to settle Biblical doctrine. Not only that, but the Bible specifically forbids pastors from striking or brawling:

"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, NO STRIKER, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, NOT A BRAWLER, not covetous;" - 1 Timothy 3:2-3



The thing that really stood out to me was that after playing my video exposing Sam Gipp, in which I said that anyone who listens to what Sam Gipp said and agrees with it or is okay with it is clearly not saved, he then proceeded to tell his congregation that I had declared them all unsaved. So what he actually did there is just make an assumption that everyone in the auditorium must have agreed with Sam Gipp's bizarre blasphemy. Keith Gomez is so sure that everyone in his church is a brainwashed, mindless follower, the thought that anyone in the auditorium might disagree with him doesn't even enter his mind!

"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." - Proverbs 16:18

The presumption and arrogance of Keith Gomez is going to backfire. I guarantee you that there were plenty of people in that auditorium that agreed with me about Gipp's blasphemy because even when you listen to the video you can tell that the energy of the crowd is not on their side. You could cut the tension in that place with a knife. Sure there are always going to be the amen-bellowing yes-men who would gladly follow Gomez or Gipp off a cliff, but there have to be people in that church who can think for themselves. Apparently Gomez wants to run them off, so he can have unquestioned obedience and loyalty from his mindless drones. It will be interesting to see how many people quit the church after this debacle.

I believe that this may be similar to the story of Pharaoh in the Bible where God hardened Pharaoh's heart to the point where didn't even realize that he was destroying his own kingdom by resisting the word of God.

"And Pharaoh's servants said unto him, How long shall this man be a snare unto us? let the men go, that they may serve the Lord their God: knowest thou not yet that Egypt is destroyed?" - Exodus 10:7

Playing the full video in his church was a very foolish thing to do, but I believe that God wanted it to be played so that everyone in the audience would be without excuse.

Like Bob Gray earlier this year, Pastor Keith Gomez is another great example of a preacher from the Baby Boomer Generation who is in the process of "burning it all down" for the next generation. That is why the preachers of my generation need to forsake these false prophets and quit following them just because they're old.

"Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished." - Ecclesiastes 4:13

Tuesday, May 9, 2017

Sam Gipp's WORST Blasphemy ever!



Sam Gipp said the most Satanic thing I have ever heard in my life tonight in an independent, fundamental Baptist church, and no one even batted an eye. He was even praised by the pastor for preaching a great sermon. I thought it was bad when he said that Jesus was not his Messiah, but this was even WORSE than that.

He said that the name of Jesus is the wrong name for our saviour! He claims that the angel told his parents to name the baby Emmanuel, but that because of a lack of faith, they named him Jesus instead. Then he goes on to say that when Jesus Christ returns at the second coming, that NO ONE will call him "Jesus." What is he doing, preparing the way for an antichrist to come who is not even named Jesus?!?!

The Bible is crystal clear that the name "Jesus" was given by God, and the angel clearly told Joseph to name the baby "Jesus:"

"And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins." - Matthew 1:21 

"And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb." - Luke 2:21

Jesus is the name above all names! Every Christian loves the name of JESUS. What kind of a sick person, what kind of a demonic false teacher would even come up with such a teaching that the name "Jesus" was a "plan B" that his parents came up with because "they received him not"?

Any pastor who watches the clip below where Sam Gipp teaches this garbage and still has him come and preach is just as demonic as he is. If you go to a church where Sam Gipp is scheduled to preach, DEMAND that he be canceled. Don't let them pull this crap of, "Well, he's already scheduled, but we won't invite him next year." WRONG. If your pastor has him come preach anyway, he is probably just as demonic as Sam Gipp, and you should get out of that church immediately or hire a new pastor.

We can't just sit back and let Sam Gipp infiltrate 50 churches a year with his traveling circus of demonic lies. This is a battle that must be fought. We keep this demon-possessed false prophet out of God's house. Here is his itinerary for 2017: http://faithfulwordbaptist.org/sam_gipp2017.pdf


Here is the video that contains his blasphemous false teaching:

Monday, May 8, 2017

Anti-Anderson Conference Day 1

Sam Gipp displays his intelligence with point 2: "Who's is he talking you? Jews"
The Anti-Anderson Conference is in full swing, and although the 3 hour morning sessions with Sam Gipp are not online, the evening services are being live-streamed. I tuned in for about a half hour yesterday evening before church and thought it was hilarious that the sermon was virtually identical to the one he preached at Treasure Valley Baptist Church almost 3 years ago when he denied Jesus as his messiah. He even told all the same corny jokes, used the same illustrations, etc. You would think that he would want to open the conference with some fresh material, not just warm over the same sermon from 3 years ago! These "evangelists" don't realize that in the age of the internet, it looks foolish to just keep preaching the exact same material over and over again with jokes that are obviously canned.

He even made the exact same mistakes as he did the first time, like when he claimed that there were only about 2 million people on the earth at the time of Christ - there were actually 200 million. The Bible records an army of Ethiopians that had 1 million people in it. Apparently Sam Gipp thinks that half the world's population in Bible days were Ethiopian soldiers. He should have watched my textual commentary of his sermon to at least correct a few basic errors. Since their is no video archive of his first sermon from the Anti-Anderson Conference, you can just watch this video of his sermon from 3 years ago since it was virtually the same sermon anyway!



When he got to the part in the sermon where he normally denies that Jesus is his Messiah, he left that part out this time.

This evening (Monday), I was able to tune in to the last half hour or so of Gipp's sermon, and it was non-stop jokes and rabbit trails. The part that I saw had virtually nothing to with the tribulation, the rapture, or anything else pertaining to the subjects at hand. He went on and on about the difference between the angels Michael and Gabriel, and he talked a lot about Lucifer in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28, Jesus being tempted in the wilderness and fasting 40 days and 40 nights, etc. I have no idea what these things had to do with the point of his sermon or with the point of this conference. It seemed like it was just some of his favorite material that he uses on the road, so he pulled it out to fill time.

When Keith Gomez got up at the end for the altar call and invitation, he seemed disappointed and desperate since Sam Gipp had delivered no proof for a pre-trib rapture, so he quickly got out his two most powerful points on why After the Tribulation is wrong:

1. The great men of the past can't have been wrong. "We already fought these battles."
2. Don't listen to preachers on the internet.

Gomez then provided an opportunity for those who had "changed their view" on the rapture as a result of the sermon to come to the altar (even though the sermon wasn't even talking about the timing of the rapture).

If you don't have time to watch the above video of Sam Gipp's often repeated sermon against After the Tribulation with my textual commentary on the screen (I don't blame you!), here is a short highlight for you:

Sunday, April 23, 2017

Upcoming Anti-Anderson Conference


Sam Gipp

Well it looks like Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez are planning a conference all about fighting yours truly. Many preachers across America have recently expressed appreciation for the preaching and soul-winning being done by our church and other churches in our movement, but as usual, a few are envious. In this case, one is a hyper-dispensationalist and the other pushes "repent of your sins" salvation.

The following is copied and pasted from an e-mail forwarded to me by another pastor:

The Bible Answer to Post-Trib: Presented by Dr. Sam Gipp

The doctrine of a pretribulational rapture has been under attack recently by a pastor in Arizona, Steven Anderson.

Many pastors across the nation have voiced their concern over this issue...some have lost church members as a result of this doctrinal error.

I am aware of even some young preachers who are falling for Anderson's false teaching.

You may not think your church is being influenced by this heresy...but it is!

On May 8-10, 2017 (Monday-Wednesday), Dr. Sam Gipp will be presenting the Bible Answer to Post-Trib Theology.

I encourage you to attend this much needed and requested meeting in just a few weeks.

Morning sessions: 9AM to 12PM at the campus of Providence Baptist College (345 W River Rd, Elgin, IL 60123).

Evening sessions: 7PM at Northwest Bible Baptist Church (9N889 Nesler Rd, Elgin, IL 60124).

Issues being addressed: Post-tribulation rapture, replacement theology and anti-dispensationalism

The evening sessions will be live streamed and also recorded. You can request your free copy in advance by replying to this email.

Dr. Keith Gomez
Pastor
Northwest Bible Baptist Church (Elgin, IL)

Complimentary lodging at PBC is available on a limited basis for pastors (and spouses) attending this meeting. Reply to this email by May 1 to request a room.

I couldn’t find anything about this meeting online, but apparently, this e-mail was sent out to pastors in their circle and in their geographic area. It’s on their church’s calendar simply as “Evangelist Sam Gipp,” so I guess they don't want people in our movement to get wind of it and show up at the conference or participate in the live stream.

I guarantee that the conference is going to backfire. Most independent fundamental Baptist pastors (even the ones who are dispensational) do not believe in the radical hyper-dispensationalism taught by Sam Gipp. Anyone at the conference who is actually saved and indwelled by the Holy Spirit is not going to fall for Gipp's "multiple Gospel" garbage (i.e. that Jesus taught a different Gospel than Paul, etc). After listening to 4 hours per day of Gipp's teachings on dispensationalism, many of them will never want anything to do with him again. Most IFBs don't realize how radical and heretical he is on these subjects. In our film, Marching to Zion, we even documented him saying that Jesus is not his Messiah!

Not only that, but "Doctor" Sam Gipp is one of the least intelligent preachers I have ever heard. Why would Keith Gomez pick the dumbest possible preacher to defend this doctrine? At least Sam Gipp's mentor Peter Ruckman (also a heretic) was extremely intelligent. Sam Gipp is like Peter Ruckman without the brains. Talk about the worst of both worlds! In a typical one hour sermon from Gipp, he puts his foot in his mouth about 10 times.  This video provides a small sample of his intellectual deficit:



The bottom line is that I believe that this wicked conference will backfire, and that it will ultimately be used for God's glory by exposing more people to the truths found in After the Tribulation and Marching to Zion. Once any saved pastor delves into the issues surrounding Israel, the tribulation, the rapture, etc, he is going to come to the same conclusions that we have because we all have the same Bible and the same Holy Spirit. I welcome the controversy because at least pastors will start digging into the Bible and getting to the bottom of these subjects. If they are sincere, the Holy Ghost will guide them into all truth.