Approximately six or seven years ago I attended a fellowship meeting in a Baptist church in Hockley, Texas. A young preacher, named Joey Faust, from Venus, Texas spoke on the subject of KE and said that he had written a book on the subject. Afterwards, thinking that someone needed to head him off before he got too far out on a limb, I asked him if I could critique the manuscript before he sent it to the publishers and he agreed and mailed it to me. I read it, made exhaustive notes, and was shocked when I could not refute his arguments and was impressed with his scholarship and meticulous research, although I have not come to a final decision about all of his conclusions. His book is titled, "The Rod - Will God Spare it?"
That was back in 2008. Now he preaches this doctrine from behind the pulpit as a guest preacher (according to his friend Pastor Sam Adams, who said he will never have Dr. Greg Dixon come and preach ever again since he preached this heresy). Here are a list of quotes from Joey Faust's manuscript that Dr. Dixon was so "impressed" with and "could not refute:"
"It is important to
realize that the warnings concerning death at the Judgment Seat for SOME
believers are not all limited to the Gospels." –Joey Faust, p. 72, The
Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Notice that
believers are warned about going to the SAME PLACE as unbelievers during
the Millennium . . ." –Joey Faust, p. 180, The Rod: Will God Spare
It?, Pre-pub book
"Some Christians
will experience temporary death after death." –Joey Faust, p. 65, The
Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Therefore, any
death experienced at the Judgment Seat that divides BODY, soul or spirit can
be described as a cutting asunder. The next chapter of this book
will show that the Bible clearly warns true Christians of a soul death if we
walk in seat without repentance." –Joey Faust, p. 71, The Rod: Will
God Spare It?, p 71 Pre-pub book
"The death of
[Romans 8:] 13 will therefore be experienced at the judgment seat of Christ. –Joey Faust,
p. 73, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"It is now time to
examine more closely the death that many Christians will experience at the
Judgment Seat. It includes not only the death of the body, but also the death
of the soul . . ." –Joey Faust, p. 75, The Rod: Will God Spare It?,
Pre-pub book
"Under Christ it is
the temporary death of the body and the soul! This is why the Bible teaches
Christians to strive to have their souls saved at the Judgment Seat (Heb. 10:39, 1 pet. 1:9,
Jas 1:21,
etc.). The Christian’s soul is already saved in eternity. Yet, there is also a
saving of the soul in relation to the future age of reward. Disobedient
Christians are in danger of losing their souls temporarily at the Judgment Seat
(Mt. 10:28,
29, 16:24-26)."
–Joey Faust, p. 81, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"It is now time to
examine more closely the death that many Christians will experience at the
judgment seat. It includes not only the death of the body, but also the death
of the soul . . ." -- Joey Faust, p. 135, The Rod: Will God Spare
It?, p. 75, pre published book;
"The ‘much sorer
punishment’ than physical death (mentioned in Hebrews 10) is called the ‘second
death’ in the Book of Revelation. The Lake
of Fire
is where this soul death will begin to occur; therefore, the Lake
of Fire
is called the ‘second death’ in th Book of Revelation. The Lord’s breath lights
a fire before His throne. This fire from the Lord’s mouth is a rod. It will try
believers and it will slay all that have lived in disobedience and sloth
without repentance. The Lake of Fire is where this soul death will begin to
occur; therefore the Lake of fire is called the ‘second death’ . . . Christians
are warned about the danger of being temporarily ‘hurt’ by this Lake of Fire .
. . After being slain by the Lord’s fiery breath at the judgment seat,
unfaithful Christians will be banished to the underworld [HELL] for 1000
years." -- Joey Faust, p. 143, 144, The Rod: Will God Spare It?,
p. 83, 84, pre published book
"Unbelievers will
be thrown into this Lake
of Fire.
They will experience the ‘second death.’ Yet Christians are warned about the
danger of temporarily ‘hurt’ by this Lake
of Fire."
–Joey Faust, p. 144, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, p. 84,
Pre-pub book
"The same Lake
of Fire
can be temporary for God’s rebellious people, yet endless for God’s rebellious
enemies (i.e. non-Christians)." –Joey Faust, The Rod: Will God Spare
It?, p. 93, Pre-pub book
"Christians cannot
lose ultimate salvation. They will therefore only be hurt temporarily by the Lake
of Fire."
–Joey Faust, p. 94, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Disobedient
Christians who fail to overcome in life will first experience the Lake
of Fire.
They will then experience the dark prison of the underworld during the glorious
age of the Millennial Kingdom of God . . . Disobedient Christians do not stay
in the Lake of Fire before the throne of the Lord. After the fire has declared
in their bodies what kind of deeds they committed as Christians, it will be the
second stage of their judgment. Being ‘hurt’ of the ‘second death’ is only the
first, initial stage. Then will then be gathered again and sent down to the
underworld for the duration of the Millennial
Kingdom
(Rev. 20:6)."–Joey Faust, p. 209, The Rod: Will God Spare It?,
Pre-pub book
"As the disobedient
servants [believers] walk over the Lake
of Fire
they will immediately be ‘cut asunder’ by its FLAMES. They will then be
gathered into the ‘lower parts’ of the earth’ [hell fire] to stay until the Millennial
Kingdom
is over." –Joey Faust, p. 211, The Rod: Will God Spare It?,
Pre-pub book
"This two part
judgment links together Christ’s warnings about destruction IN the Lake
of Fire
(Rev. 2:11) with His warnings about the underworld. The judgment IN HELL comes
directly after the ‘death’ IN the Lake
of Fire."
–Joey Faust, p. 213, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Every Christian
that has walked a life filled with the Spirit will be glorified at the Judgment
Seat (Rom. 8:17).
The flames of the 'second death' will not hurt the glorified body quickened by
the Spirit. However, every Christian that has not allowed the indwelling Spirit
to dwell in his actions and deeds (but has grieved Him) will die in the flames
at the judgment seat. His carnal deeds will be manifested in his mortal body
[unglorified body].” -- Joey Faust, p179, The Rod: Will God Spare
It?, p. 217, pre pub book
"After this
manifestation by fire comes the next step . . . [1 Cor. 3:15] . . . After the
body is first burned in the 'second death’, IT will then be sentenced and
temporarily banished to the underworld [hell to you uninformed]. This is a two
part judgment. Tried by fire [i.e., the second death] and then saved 'so as by
fire' (i.e., the subsequent punishment in the fiery prison of the underworld,
from which one will be delivered after the millennium). One might wonder how
disobedient Christians get from the Lake of Fire to Hell to the underworld . . ."
-- Joey Faust, p. 179 The Rod: Will God Spare It?, p. 217, 218, pre pub
book;
"Outer darkness in
the heart of the earth is where the hypocrites and unbelievers will wait until
the Great White Throne when EVERYONE is raised for final judgment. At
that point, all who are not found written in the Book of Life (the unbelievers)
will be cast into the Lake
of Fire
for all eternity (Rev. 20:15. All Christians will then be together throughout
eternity and all tears will be wiped away (Rev. 21:4). –Joey Faust, p. 181, The
Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Disobedient
Christians will experience a temporary hurt IN the Lake
of Fire
which is the ‘second death’, and they will be then be cast into the dark, FIERY
prison of the underworld. . . . Hell is not the lake
of Fire;
yet Christians are warned about destruction IN both places." –Joey
Faust, p. 208, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"In 1 Corinthians
3:15, the ‘fire’ speaks of literal fire. Paul concludes his warning by
revealing that it is the unfaithful Christian man himself that shall be
literally burned." -- Joey Faust, p. 161 The Rod: Will God Spare It?,
p. 101, pre published book;
"The underworld is
sometimes called Hell in the Bible . . . It is therefore a proper word to use
to refer to the place the Lord will cast all that are unworthy of His Kingdom
(Mt. 5:28; Lk, 9:62, etc.)." –Joey Faust, p. 184, 185, The Rod: Will
God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Disobedient
Christians will be cast out of the Millennial
Kingdom and will temporarily go into
the underworld where they will
experience negative consequences based on their degree of sin. This prison is
some times ‘hell’ in the English Bible." –Joey Faust, p. 190, The
Rod: Will God Spare It?, Pre-pub book
"Translators were
correct in translating Hades, Gehenna and Tarturus by the single word ‘hell’.
They all refer to that one place in the center of the earth where the
unfaithful dead [i.e. carnal BELIEVERS and unbelievers] will spend the Millennial
Kingdom
of God." –Joey Faust, p. 196, The Rod: Will God Spare It?,
Pre-pub book
"Everyone that has
‘part’ in the First Resurrection will reign. This at once refutes the common
idea that the only thing Christians can forfeit is a reign in the kingdom.
Christians can lose the millennial kingdom itself." -- Joey Faust, p.
185, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, p. 148, pre published book;
"Having part in the
First Resurrection is linked with kingdom entrance and reign. Both are
conditional blessings for Christians based upon conduct." --Joey Faust,
p. 188, The Rod: Will God Spare It?, p. 152 - pre published book
"It is important to
realize that ‘having part’ in the First Resurrection does not just consist of
being raised momentarily from the dead or judgment. It consists of being raised
from the dead never to die again." --Joey Faust, The Rod: Will God
Spare It? - p. 190, p. 153 - pre published book;
"Paul was striving
for the First Resurrection. He shows the First Resurrection is conditioned upon
suffering with Christ. It is called a ‘prize.’ A prize is something one is to
win"; [Phil. 3:11-14;
1 Cor. 9:24-27]
-- Joey Faust,p. 189 The Rod: Will God Spare It? , p.
153, pre published book;
"Nevertheless, all
Christians will not stay alive. All Christians will not be found worthy to
obtain ‘that world’ and the ‘resurrection from the dead.’ Since they will die
again, they do not ‘have part’ in that Resurrection." – Joey Faust, p.
191, The Rod: Will God Spare It? , p. 154, pre published book;
"Many Christians will
be raised only to die again. They will be hurt of the ‘second death’ and will
miss the kingdom for 1000 years. These Christians will be raised to immortality
at the Great White Throne [second resurrection] after the millennium . . .
These Christians missed the First Resurrection and the kingdom reign. They were
hurt of the second death [lake of fire] and had to die again at the judgment
seat of Christ. They receive the resurrection of life (to immortality) on the
Last Day, which occurs after the millennium." -- Joey Faust, p. 195,
196, The Rod: Will God Spare It? , p. 159, 160, pre published
book
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Pastor Anderson,
I learn so much from your preaching,I wish you were my pastor.
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